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Info-Hams Digest            Mon, 27 Jun 94       Volume 94 : Issue  711

Today's Topics:
                       * SpaceNews 27-Jun-94 *
                           15m interference
                       Anyone USE DTMF Paging ?
                               Clipart
                   Hey Hey, My My, What a Field Day
                           IC2 mod question
                           License Renewal
                            Paket ver 6.0
                                stores
                 What causes pitch shift in receiver?
                      What hams do on vacation.
             You know it's time to quit the hobby when...
                     You Know It's Time to Retire
                  YOU KNOW ITS TIME TO RETI (3 msgs)

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Date: 27 Jun 94 18:05:57 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: * SpaceNews 27-Jun-94 *
To: [e-mail]

SB NEWS @ AMSAT $SPC0627
* SpaceNews 27-Jun-94 *


BID: $SPC0627


                               =========
                               SpaceNews
                               =========


                          MONDAY JUNE 27, 1994


SpaceNews originates at KD2BD in Wall Township, New Jersey, USA.  It is
published every week and is made available for unlimited distribution.


* DOVE TESTING CONTINUES *
==========================
At about 6/11/94 05:30 UTC controllers completed a reload of the DOVE
software and activated another voice test.  The pronunciation of the word
'Hi' is a bit different and the overall amplitude of the voice is higher.

Controllers expect to continue the hardware testing process after a period
of software development on the ground that will probably last several days
to a few weeks.

The following packet frames were received from DOVE by KD2BD late last week:

DOVE-1>TIME-1 <UI>:
PHT: uptime is 014/02:11:51.  Time is Fri Jun 24 16:11:31 1994

DOVE-1>BRAMST <UI>:
0500 utc 14 June 1994

Voice Module now active
Software testing continues
S-Band transmitter is off

73 DOVE Command Team (WJ9F)

Reception reports of how well the voice is heard with simple receiving
equipment (like an HT and rubber duck) would be appreciated.  Please send
reports via the Internet to WJ9F, PY2BJO, WD0E, VK7ZBX, or N5AHD @amsat.org.
Telemetry is not needed at this time.

[Info via Jim White, WD0E, of the DOVE command team]


* STS-65 SAREX INFORMATION *
============================
Shuttle mission STS-65 using orbiter "Columbia" is scheduled for launch
on 08-Jul-94 at 17:06 UTC for a 14-day microgravity scientific mission.
A SAREX package in configuration 'C' will be carried on Columbia on this
mission.  Crew members Donald A. Thomas, Mission Specialist, KC5FVF, and
Robert D. Cabana, (callsign?) are among the licensed astronauts flying on
mission STS-65.

The primary payload for STS-65 is the International Microgravity Laboratory
(IML-02), that includes a complement of international experiments with its
main focus on materials and life sciences research in microgravity.  The
payload crew members will perform the experiments in a "gravity gradient"
stabilized attitude (shuttle tail pointed toward Earth) to maintain the best
possible laboratory conditions with the least gravitational disturbances in
the Spacelab.

One of the secondary payloads will be the Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment.
SAREX configuration C consists of a 2-meter handheld transceiver, I/F
module, PGSC, spare battery set, window antenna, packet module, SAREX
headset assembly, personal recorder, and required cable assemblies.  The
packet module contains a power supply and packet TNC.  The power supply
provides power for the TNC and the handheld transceiver.  The TNC
interconnects with a radio transceiver so that data to and from the
computer is transmitted to and received from other amateur radio stations.
Configuration C is capable of operating in either the voice or data mode
in communications with amateur stations within LOS of the Orbiter.  This
configuration can be operated in the attended mode for voice communication
and either the attended or automatic mode for data communications.   The
payload control weight for SAREX configuration C is 45 lb (20.41 kg).

SAREX sponsors include the American Radio Relay League (ARRL), The Radio
Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), and The National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA).  SAREX is supported by the Federal
Communications Commission (FCC).

The crew will use separate receive and transmit frequencies.  PLEASE DO NOT
transmit on the Shuttle's downlink frequency.  The SAREX frequencies for
mission STS-65 are as follows:

Voice Downlink: (Worldwide) 145.55 MHz [Receive Only]
Voice Uplink: 144.91, 144.93, 144.95, 144.97, 144.99 MHz
Voice Uplink: (Europe only) 144.70, 144.75, 144.80 MHz
Packet Downlink: 145.55 MHz
Packet Uplink: 144.49 MHz

KC5FVF is the callsign that will be used for making voice contacts.  W5RRR-1
will be used for packet radio connections.

QSLs and reception (SWL) reports should be sent to the ARRL EAD, STS-65 QSL,
225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA.  Include the following
information in your QSL or report: STS-65, date, time in UTC, frequency and
mode (FM voice or packet).  In addition, a large, business sized SASE must
be included if you wish to receive a card in return.  The Lake County
Amateur Radio Club in Munster, Indiana, has generously volunteered to manage
the cards for this mission.

The following is STS-65 Keplerian element set JSC-003:

STS-65
1 00065U          94189.76284929  .00052344  00000-0  15762-3 0   37
2 00065  28.4664  13.0731 0003571 330.7493  29.2906 15.90324781   23

Satellite: STS-65
Catalog number: 00065
Epoch time:      94189.76284929   =    (08 JUL 94   18:18:30.18 UTC)
Element set:     003
Inclination:       28.4664 deg
RA of node:        13.0731 deg           Space Shuttle Flight STS-65
Eccentricity:     .0003571              Prelaunch Element set JSC-003
Arg of perigee:   330.7493 deg          Launch:  08 JUL 94  17:06 UTC
Mean anomaly:      29.2906 deg
Mean motion:   15.90324781 rev/day           Gil Carman, WA5NOM
Decay rate:     5.2344e-04 rev/day^2      NASA Johnson Space Center
Epoch rev:               2
Checksum:              289

[Info via The American Radio Relay League]


* InfoEspace *
==============
As of 20-Jun-94, VE2TRV, has started translating SpaceNews into French for
the francophone VE2-population.  Mike has noted a lot of recent interest in
astronomy and space-related subjects, and believes the French language
version of SpaceNews will become very popular.  Mike has been translating
some articles from SpaceNews for the Laval Laurentian ARC newsletter, and
reports the 360 members really appreciate it.

My thanks to VE2TRV for the time and effort of performing the language
translation!


* RS-14 / RS-10 OBSERVATION *
=============================
During a recent pass of RS-10 over the central United States, OSCAR-21's
(RS-14) CW beacon (145.822 MHz) was observed through RS-10's ROBOT on
29.403 MHz at 21:36 UTC on 24-Jun-94.

Orbital analysis showed RS-10 over southern Oklahoma and heading south,
while RS-14/AO-21 was over the east coast of Mexico and heading north when
the beacon was heard.

Although RS-10's ROBOT input passband (centered on 145.820 MHz) is several
kilohertz wide, RS-14's telemetry was heard for only a short period of
time because of the high relative motion between the two spacecraft.  The
Doppler shift this motion produced was well in excess of the ROBOT input
passband.  The beacon received from RS-14 by RS-10 drifted quicky through
the ROBOT passband as the two satellites passed one another over the south
central United States.


* THANKS! *
===========
Thanks to all those who sent messages of appreciation to SpaceNews,
especially:

             N1MDZ        VE2TRV       G3RHP        F5OYH


* FEEDBACK/INPUT WELCOMED *
===========================
Mail to SpaceNews should be directed to the editor (John, KD2BD) via any
of the following paths:

FAX      : [phone]
PACKET   : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
INTERNET : [e-mail] -or- [e-mail]

MAIL     : John A. Magliacane, KD2BD
           Department of Engineering and Technology
           Advanced Technology Center
           Brookdale Community College
           Lincroft, New Jersey  07738
           U.S.A.


       <<=- SpaceNews: The first amateur newsletter read in space! -=>>

/EX

--
John A. Magliacane, KD2BD   * /\/\ * Voice   : 1-908-224-2948
Advanced Technology Center  |/\/\/\| Packet  : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
Brookdale Community College |\/\/\/| Internet: [e-mail]
Lincroft, NJ  07738         * \/\/ * Morse   : -.-  -..  ..---  -...  -..

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Date: 27 Jun 1994 15:52:10 GMT
From: pacbell.com![e-mail]
Subject: 15m interference
To: [e-mail]

This weekend four of us operated FD from a location high (8500 ft)
in the mountains of Northern Calif.  On 15 meters we kept hearing
something that sounded like a cross between slow scan, pactor, and
the Russian Woodpecker.  The individuals sounds were a little like
fax but a lot chirpyer and faster.  The were very loud 40 to 50 over
S-9.  The sounds would cover all of 15 meters a times.  They would start
run for a while ruining the band for 20 to 30 minutes then go away for
a while.  Several times the rep rate and chirpyness varied.  I did not
have anything to tape it with or I would have.  The interference was
only on 15 meters.  Upon hearing it I immediately thought of the U.S.
version of the Russian Woodpecker, but I have never before heard anything
like this.   I have two questions.
1. Did anyone else hear this.
2. Does anyone have any ideas what it was.
de WV6U Steve.  73 49 0100 1001

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Date: 27 Jun 1994 13:39:00 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Anyone USE DTMF Paging ?
To: [e-mail]

By the way, is DTMF paging allowed on repeaters? Don't you have to ID your paging?

I'm still waiting for my license but I heard few instances of paging over the
repeater WITHOUT a call sign.


-------------------------------------
Christopher S. Pak
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Center for Space Research
37-487
77 Massachusetts Ave.
Cambridge, MA 02139
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

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Date: 27 Jun 1994 17:10:18 +0100
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!pipex!warwick![e-mail]
Subject: Clipart
To: [e-mail]

The University of Warwick Amateur Radio Society is currently in the process
of putting together some publicity for next year's fresher's fair. I've
been looking for radio-related clipart to include, but to no avail (all
I could find was an ARRL logo, which isn't much use in the UK). Does anyone
have any ideas where I might find some on the net? (most formats will do).

    Thanks a lot,

        Rob (President UOWARS).

____________________________________________________________________________
|Rob Garth - University of Warwick, Coventry, UK (Electronic Engineering.) |
|                        ---------------------                             |
| Internet address: [e-mail]                                |
| Amateur Radio Callsign: G7ELK                                            |
| Packet radio: G7ELK@GB7WRR (Holidays only.)                              |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|       This is my world, and I am a world leader pretend.                 |
|       This is my life, and this is my time.                              |
|       I have been given the freedom to do as I see fit.                  |
|       Its high time I razed the walls that I've constructed. (R.E.M.)    |
|__________________________________________________________________________|

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Date: 27 Jun 1994 14:16:13 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Hey Hey, My My, What a Field Day
To: [e-mail]

Decided this year to work with the Laurel, MD ARA as W3DAD.  As usual,
you're never dressed for the weather - the t-shirt and shorts didn't
work well at 50-55 degrees or whatever it was Saturday night - it was
COLD!

As much as I lobbied to work in the QRP class, I was told that most of
the people there weren't serious ops, and would probably get frustrated
by the lack of QSOs and number of calls you had to make to get anywhere.

After living at home with a dipole, and suddenly having a 6-element
tribander up on a 35' mast, it was a HUGE treat to be the "BIG SIGNAL"
on the band.  CW speed went up from 25 to 35 wpm, and I'm still hearing
CQ CQ FD de W3DAD W3DAD QRZ
ringing in my ears.  A friend of mine, Simon, G0GWA, was on business
from England, and joined the group with his extensive CW prowess.  So
if you include all the club members who showed up, and add Simon and
myself, you have at total of:

TWO

CW operators.  NOBODY in the club worked any CW.  Of course, this was
good for me since nobody had any desire to displace me from my seat, even
when I got up to get something to eat.

Did I mention we only had one keyer for the two of us?  Somebody ran home
and got a Vibroplex paddle, but it was hooked up for a lefty.  So I
flipped it upside down, and used it as a straight, upside-down key,
brushing up on my fist which had grown a bit rusty in the year I've had
my keyer.

Again, as usual, a different and exciting experience, ending in a flurry
of QSOs on 10 meter SSB, with FIVE contacts in the last TWO MINUTES of
the exercise.  I've never worked so fast in my life.

CU on the bands, 73 and hope y'all had fun

de NF3I

Did I mention the helium-filled blimp holding up the 160 vertical?
Managed some 25 QSOs on that alone!

--
73,                            _________   _________  The
                            \ /  Long   Original
Scott Rosenfeld  Amateur Radio NF3I  Burtonsville, MD     |   Live    $5.00
  WAC-CW/SSB  WAS  DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 13:54:47 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ns.mcs.kent.edu!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!chemabs![e-mail]
Subject: IC2 mod question
To: [e-mail]

Please respond directly to
[e-mail]

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Can anyone on the net help me with a mod to an Icom IC-2AT?

I need to bring out a signal when squelch is broken.

For my application, that signal can either be a ground,
or a battery voltage level signal.

Does anybody know where in the circuit I can obtain that signal?


Richard R. Wetherald KE8OD
Internet:    [e-mail]
--------

--------



--
  Vince Herried (KA8CTE); From Bitnet: [e-mail] or vjh21%cas.org@ohstmvsa
  Chemical Abstracts Service   [phone] x 2877
  P.O. Box 3012, Columbus, OH 43210-0012

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 14:30:53 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!gvls1![e-mail]
Subject: License Renewal
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Maultsby) writes:
>To: [e-mail] (Eric S Johansson)
> On 06-18-94 Eric S Johansson wrote to All...
>
> ES> >>What's the current procedure for renewing my ticket? And how soon
> ES> >>can I do it before the expiration date?
> ES> >>
> ES> >Get a copy of FCC Form 610 from the FCC, the ARRL, or your local ham
> ES> >club, fill it out, attach a copy of your current license, and send it
> ES> >in.  You should send it in at least 90 days prior to the expiration
> ES> >date.
> ES>
> ES> I did that (610, 90 days prior...) and my license just expired on the
> ES> 15th
> ES> of june with no sign of a renewal....  when should I panic?
> ES>
> ES> --- eric (hopefully still ka1eec)
>
>
>I wouldn't worry about it... Probably technically, you're not supposed to
>transmit until you get the new license in your hands, but who's gonna know?
>And who's gonna enforce it?  But with only 90 days having passed, I wouldn't
>worry about the form being lost or anything like that.  As I'm sure you've
>heard all around, the FCC isn't cranking them out too fast these days!
>
>As much as I relocate, I don't think I'll ever have to worry about renewing,
>since that's covered each time I change my address... :)

As long as you mail in your Form 610 for renewal BEFORE your license expires
you may continue to operate past the expiration date ... if the new license
does not show up before then.  Be sure to keep a signed and dated copy of
your 610.

If you wait until after the expiration date to mail your 610 then technically
you should NOT operate until the new license arrives.

So, in theory, you could wait until 1 day before your license expires to mail
in your 610 and then continue to operate past the expiration date...  But if
you waited until 1 day after then you should stay off the air until the new
license comes.  This question came up back in the mid-70's during the CB
craze and FCC processing was taking 4-6 months.

-----

Pete Rossi - WA3NNA
[e-mail]
Unisys Corporation - Government Systems Group
Valley Forge Engineering Center - Paoli, Pennsylvania

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Date: 27 Jun 94 15:07:46 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Paket ver 6.0
To: [e-mail]

Does anyone know where we can get the latest ver of Paket which
is ver 6.0 ?

The word is that it is out.

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Date: 27 Jun 1994 14:24:43 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!pipex!uknet!EU.net!ub4b!idefix.CS.kuleuven.ac.be!news.sri.ucl.ac.be![e-mail]
Subject: stores
To: [e-mail]

Hello,

I'll be in NY (at BNL, Upton Long Isl) the first week
of augustus for the job, and try to
do some ' ham shopping '. Is it anyone on the net
who could send me some addresses ? Searching for Kenwood
rig and VHF/UHF ant.
By the way, is it anyone from Brookhaven National Lab
reading this subgoup ??

Best 73     Guy


*******************************************
*    Guy Berger  ( ON7ZV )                 *
*   Internet: [e-mail]          *
*    Cyclotron                             *
*   Universite Catholique de Louvain      *
*******************************************

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 14:53:06 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com![e-mail]
Subject: What causes pitch shift in receiver?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Mollan - Harm) writes:
|> Normally pitch shift is caused by instability in the transmitter or
|> receiver.  Once the rig is warmed up, this usually stops.  You did not
|> hear drift in commercial signals because they transmit double-sideband
|> AM.  Hams usually use cw or SSB where you must carefully beat an inserted
|> carrier against the received signal to detect it.  Any drift will will
|> result in a marked changed of pitch.
|>

With my Radio Shack DX-440, after warmup, strong SSB signals (BFO on) would
'flutter' with pitch shifts that seemed to associate with audio strength.
Pitch would go down at stronger signal strength, so that the signal almost
sounded like vibrato. The onset of a word would cause a downward pitch dip, then
recovery.
  If you listened to a strong SSB station working a weak station, you'ld hear
the shifting from the strong transmitter, not the weak one.

I would speculate that this is caused by the BFO not being stable with respect
to power supply voltage. When the audio signal peaks, the audio output power
stage draws down the DC power supply voltage. Then the BFO, working from the
same DC, shifts in freq due to the DC voltage shift. When the audio subsides,
the power supply recovers, as does the BFO. Plausible?

--
Lee Johnson     ([e-mail])

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Date: 27 Jun 94 13:57:58 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: What hams do on vacation.
To: [e-mail]

 In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS 510-655-8604) writes:
 >
 >Does everyone else go around on vacations scanning rooftops, etc., for
 >antennas when on vacation?

I had a dream once about  driving down a hill and seeing a tribander on the roof
of a 3 story appartment building.  After about 2 months, I was driving down a
hill not too far from home and there it was!  (Even in my sleep I scan!)
--


Stephen P. Baker                                phone:  [phone]
Lecturer in Biostatistics                               [phone] fax
Department of Academic Computing                        [phone] home
University of Massachusetts Medical School    e-mail: [e-mail]
55 Lake Avenue North                                  -.- -.. .---- .--. ..-.
Worcester, MA 01655

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Date: 27 Jun 94 13:45:28 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: You know it's time to quit the hobby when...
To: [e-mail]

Your family leaves on vacation without you because it's field day!

KD1PF  1D WMA
--


Stephen P. Baker                                phone:  [phone]
Lecturer in Biostatistics                               [phone] fax
Department of Academic Computing                        [phone] home
University of Massachusetts Medical School    e-mail: [e-mail]
55 Lake Avenue North                                  -.- -.. .---- .--. ..-.
Worcester, MA 01655

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Date: 27 Jun 94 12:02:39 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ulowell!woods.uml.edu![e-mail]
Subject: You Know It's Time to Retire
To: [e-mail]

You know it's time to retire from the hobby when:

Shortly after obtaining your callsign "KA5MWD" and using the phonetics
"Mississippi Water Department" or something similar, your XYL gives birth
to twins and every ham for miles around dubbs you "Many Wet Diapers."
P.S.  One harmonic was already running loose in the shack - in diapers.

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 11:28:15 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!yale.edu!noc.near.net!usenet.elf.com!rpi!psinntp!arrl.org![e-mail]
Subject: YOU KNOW ITS TIME TO RETI
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

: How about when you greet your boss on a monday by saying "Hello Old Man!"
: only to find he doesn't LIKE being called an old man.  (Happened to me
: last week.....had a hard time convincing him that it was a friendly
: gesture.)

Is this like telling a new ARRL non-ham employee that "lid" is a term of
great respect among hams, then convincing the hapless newbie to go be
respectful to Dave Sumner? :-)


--
Ed Hare, KA1CV, ARRL Laboratory, 225 Main, Newington, CT 06111
203-666-1541 [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:09:33 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplb!hpwin055.uksr!hpqmoea![e-mail]
Subject: YOU KNOW ITS TIME TO RETI
To: [e-mail]

Ed Hare (KA1CV) ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Is this like telling a new ARRL non-ham employee that "lid" is a term of
: great respect among hams, then convincing the hapless newbie to go be
: respectful to Dave Sumner? :-)

  Cruel!

  Where I started, the newbie was told how special tools were kept in
the tool stores, and was promptly sent off to fetch one :

   Newbie  "I need the long stand"

   Storeskeeper  " How long do you want it for ?"

   Newbie  " Joe said I ought to be finished by lunch"

   Storeskeeper  " OK, just wait over there"


   This was reputed to work very well on many occasions.

  Cheers
           David

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Date: 27 Jun 1994 16:38:26 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: YOU KNOW ITS TIME TO RETI
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ed Hare
(KA1CV)) wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> : How about when you greet your boss on a monday by saying "Hello Old Man!"
> : only to find he doesn't LIKE being called an old man.  (Happened to me
> : last week.....had a hard time convincing him that it was a friendly
> : gesture.)
>
> Is this like telling a new ARRL non-ham employee that "lid" is a term of
> great respect among hams, then convincing the hapless newbie to go be
> respectful to Dave Sumner? :-)

Actually "lid" is too kind a greeting for Mr. Sumner.

Yes that's right.. the ascerbic wit of KD1NR has returned. Jeez Ed.. I'm
surprised they let you post without the official censor seeing that.

--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== [e-mail], Tel. [phone] Fax. [phone]
== The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.

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Date: 27 Jun 1994 14:10:13 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2u9ji1$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Reply-To : [e-mail] (Ignacy Misztal)
Subject : Re: AEA IsoLoop - Opinion

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Welch) writes:
>As quoted from <[e-mail]> by [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos):
>
>> In article <2u9ji1$[e-mail]>, DGoodman wrote:
>> > In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ray
>> > Wade) writes:
>> >
>> > >Dummy loads are RREEAAALLLYYY quiet!
>> >
>> > But they won't let you work 230 countries with 100 watts.
>> >
>> > Danny Goodman AE9F/6
>>
>> Exactly my findings. If the Isoloop isn't working for some reason, double
>> check the installation and location. Remember, loop antennas were in use
>> at the beginning of the radio era, so the designs and concepts are not
>> new, but they are tried and tested. I've got mine in the attic and have been
>> working world-wide DX w/better than average results.
>>
>> Andy N3LCW
>
>  We did double-check - it worked, but very poorly.  Tried it on a
>couple of bands with similar results.
>  Just for grins, last night my wife (WV9K) *did* use a short antenna
>that worked nearly as well - an 8 inch alligator cliplead dangled off
>a 50 ohm resistor.  With 70 watts peak SSB, she got S-4 receive
>reports from the 20M Maritime Mobile net control, and 3x3 reports from
>Ohio and Alabama on the 40M 3905 Century Club net (we left early due
>to a t-storm).
>   We've had *much better* luck with short wire dipoles thumbtacked to
>the ceiling, and they're *much* cheaper than the loops (and a lot more
>easily packed for a trip).  Perhaps the loop advocates are unwilling
>to admit they might have been somewhat mislead by the advertising
>claim ?
>
>--
>While (its_not_working())                            John Welch, N9JZW
>  mess_with_it();                                    [e-mail]

Perhaps you mounted it horizontally at low height. The difference
between horizontal and vertical mount at 10ft could be 5S or more.

Ignacy Misztal              Ham radio: NO9E, SP8FWB
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University Of Illinois      1207 W. Gregory Dr., Urbana, IL 61801, USA
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